Trailering Nightmare

Please Note: I am not referring to this poster as an asshat, nor is she in the category. This was posted here, as a terrible trailering experience, not to call the poster out.


ThorArb Posted......
"Today was not a good day at all. Today Foxy came home. We made it in the end but both of us got hurt in the process. I dont know what became of Foxy, she has never ever acted this way before. She utterly went psycho on me. She was very very hard to load into the trailer. She reared, screamed, bucked and tried to drag me all over the farm, anywhere but towards the trailer. Finally, I managed to coax to to get in with the help of her pasture mate- KS. We unloaded KS and Foxy FREAKED! She was bucking, attempting to rear and managed to get her front legs stuck in the front of the trailer (2H straight load yuck!). She got herself free and I tried my best to keep her calm. She was better when we got moving.

We had to stop at the gas station and she freaked even worse this time. She got really stuck. One leg was caught up in the front of the trailer. She eventually just sat down on her butt and managed to free herself that way. She was so exhausted she just plopped down in the trailer, still sitting on her bum. She was literally suffocating herself on the front of the trailer. I went in, with little regards for my own safety and lifted her head so she could at least breathe. Finally with the last bit of strength she managed to right herself, crushing me between her and the middle partition. Oh well, small price to pay as long as my horse is ok. Knocked the wind out of me for a second but that was about it.

Then she freaks again. She struck me. I was dazed for a second but again when it came to my horse I didnt stay that way for long. She repeated the previous episode again. Now she is bloodied up, her face is split, blood is splattered in every direction on every surface. She righted herself again and all seemed quiet. We hauled butt home.

At home she was eerily quiet. However she did NOT want to back out of the trailer. It took 3 of us to shove her out. Once out I began to really assess the damage in the pouring down rain. We are both soaked, bloodied up and tired. She is sore, very sore and was walking funny. Her head is split open on top, on her forehead, by both eyes and she has some minor scrapes on her nose and some on her body. Both legs appear to be ok.

The head wounds were bad. Deep. Right down to where I could see her skull. It was awful. I called my vet, she came immediately thank God. So there we were, the three of us patching my old broodmare up. She is now without a forelock, has a damaged pride and plenty of sewn up parts to brag about not to mention her pulled shoulder. So she's on rest time and pain killers.

I am fine, more than a bit sore and plain exhausted. More than once I just wanted to go into a fit and break down. But you know, for the sake of your horse you've got to be at least some what calm dont you.

I have never, ever been through something like that. It was God awful and I never ever want to go through it again. Im afraid to even give her away at this point for fear she'd freak on the way to her new home. I was so scared she'd break her leg or something. I'm still all jittery. "


You can find the original thread HERE

But it was too cold to groom......

All Photo's are credited to the Horsetopia Forum. A link to the original thread is at the bottom of todays blog post.
I found this on Horsetopia yesterday.

Farmergal from Horsetopia posted....

"I've put off grooming my mini girls as the weather has been cold. Temp is up today so I thought I'd tackle the job. This is Misty and I have not touched her yet as you can tell. Well I've decided today is the day!

Should I bathe her and then shave... or brush her out and then bathe her? She is shedding heavily so I thought I'd do her first."



Exactly how long have you been putting this off?
It's obvious that farmergal has put off grooming her horses, more than just a few times.
I don't care how f'ing cold it is, your horses deserve to be properly cared for.
If you can't even accomplish the simplest of tasks (grooming), than you are most likely unfit for horse ownership. I don't think you're doing her any favors by keeping the hair on. If the hair starting to shed on it's own, then its alright to groom some of the loose hair off the horse. (Duh)
A well maintained horse doesn't look like this, even in shedding season.
This mare has A LOT of hair. If she had been groomed (even every now and then) she wouldn't have that much hair.
Oh, and take a look at the fabulous hoof care. The unkempt toes really suit this mare. (note sarcasm).
Well, I'm just happy that the lady is going to clean up the negligence, and hopefully stay on top of grooming and hoof care. (Although, I didn't see any mention to the hoof care, correct me if something WAS indeed stated...)

Take a look at the other two (not as bad, but still pretty gross).






You can find the original thread HERE

Accidents happen.....?

This is situation is not the owners fault, but rather the barn owners fault.
Some of the comments are ridiculously stupid. (Naturally)
Most of the responses were telling her to abort.

Picture is from the Horsetopia Forum.
You can find the link to the thread at the bottom.


Color Key:
Red= vet's view on it
Blue= comments on thread
I have made certain points bold.... (the key points lol)

Bitgirl_95 from Horsetopia posted....

"I know horrible but what happened was the lady i have bought all my horses from like boards my horses never had a problem until 3 wks ago (we wanted to make sure she was pregnant) but she let Tila my missouri foxtrotter stallion out to exercise in a pasture and my yearling filly and 3 yearling colts are 2 pastures away so she figured it will be ok but it wasnt my filly was in season she is 1 yrs old and 2 months tall and pretty i will post a pic and unfortunately a good jumper Bunny the filly jumped both pastures and got in with Tila and she didnt know because she was in front of the house mowing and i wasnt their well when her grandchildren finally noticed it was too late he got her So i get this phone call out of nowhere at the time i was paying for my groceries and she says Tila got Bunny i literally screamed WHAT!?! so i drove out there everything was calm on the drive but when i got there i was furious because i had told her not to touch Tila because this is what i was trying to avoid and so today is the 3 wk mark she hasnt gone into season and i called a vet out and the vet said we can give her a shot of leutalyze sp? but he said it wasnt 100% sure gonna abort the baby so he said you should just let her have it shes big she can handle it and i will come every month if you need me to and i will be there birth day so im still thinking about letting her have it but i gotta get help first. i just couldnt believe she didnt watch a stallion and a in season filly im mean common sense but im not gonna blame her i just dont know what to do.
So the question is should i let her have it or not?
What would be the risks?
The vet said i should let her have it but im gonna turn to you guys?"


Also Posted in Response to Arabiancowgirl telling her to abort

"oh arabiancowgirl she isnt tiny she is tall her is a pic awhile back right now she is about 13.5-14 hands isnt that tall for a yearling"




Whisper Stables Replied With....
"Also remimber, at that young of an age the shot can make her steril permanitly. That is what happon to a friend of mine a while ago. I am pro life in most cases. But of you REALLY want to breed her later in life you may want to concider letting her go threw with the pregnancy and killing the foal when it's born. Either way you are killing a baby, why risk having your mare become steril?"


At the end of the thread.... when Bitgirl_95 didn't update anyone on her decision....

"OK, since there is nothing but the sound of silence one could suppose the OP has elected to allow her filly to have the foal, which is her right to decide to do. My guess is she is a bit apprehensive about the heated discussion that may ensue in response to her decision. Things can get "lively" around here sometimes, as we all know. She asked for advice, was given a ton of it and is now free to do whatever she prefers to do. It might not be what most would do, but it's not our call. OR, she is simply not firmly attached to her computer and spending entirely too much time here, everyday, consumed with the lives and situations of others...in a totally healthy way , of course , and is thus unaware of our concern . Whatever will be...will be , you know? That's what I think."

Firstly, what licensed vet would encourage her to allow the yearling to carry full term, despite the fact that it could very well cause severe problems down the road?
And who the hell would kill a foal after letting it be carried full term? There is a difference between aborting a fetus and killing it after it was birthed.
I was pleased to see most of the Horsetopians advise her to abort, although a few didn't.
The ending comment about the OP not updating them with her decision, leads me to agree that she probably elected to allow the yearling to go full term.



You can find the original thread HERE

Hypp..... is not a big deal? wtf.

Many of you have read the numerous threads about Hypp, and some of the views on it are pretty astonishing.

Slim Pikkens from HT said.....
"It's too bad HYPP has been singled out as being so worrisome. There are other gene flaws that are far worse, plus quirks of nature. If the focus is on hypp what about parrot mouth, ringbone, spavins, buck shins, cow hocks? These don't come about by happenstance, someone breeds them."

Ahh! Alright, the first thing that needs to be addressed is how a horse gets Hypp. You just stated that parrot mouth (etc.) is bred into horses. Do you honestly think that hypp comes about by "happenstance"? Hypp is not the kind of disease that a horse can contract through contact with a n/h --h/h horse, or anything else of that nature. It is BRED into the horse.
Secondly, hypp IS worrisome, and dangerous. A very notable difference between hypp and cow hocks (etc.) is that hypp attacks come on suddenly and symptoms are not always present, where the other flaws do not have sudden attacks or hidden symptoms.
You CAN'T compare conformational flaws like cow hocks to a disease that has a sudden onslaught of symptoms.


You can find the original thread and post HERE

A few nice Horsetopians... and a lot of happy ass agreements

I found this.... while sifting through Horsetopia.
These people (most of them) are being quite responsible.
Although I'm sure they are all just saying the same thing to be pleasant and cordial, and to avoid disagreement.
But in general, a few of the people who replied were genuinely against it.

Breeding an Hypp h/h mare?

Money, and How it Affects the Horse World. (guest blog)

Alright everyone. This is a guest blog from our dear friend, Sonnet.
I really appreciate the fact she took the time to write a guest blog, and I highly encourage everyone else to write one as well! you can email them to: desertrae07@aol.com

Money, and How it Affects the Horse World.
A guest blog, written by: Sonnet (FHOTD)

It has to be said that having a horse is not a cheap love affair. We all know this, we all accept this, and we love it in our individual ways. To have a horse is NOT a right, it is a privilege. So when you have this privilege, you don’t treat it as a deserved right. I look at the comments from people from Horsetopia, and I get so angry and frustrated by their ignorance, and their blinkered view on horse care and the horse world in general. They make comments such as “not every one can afford a top horse" or “not everyone is made of money”. These are the two main statements I am going to address in this entry and then hopefully someone from the dreaded Horsetopia will read it and realize the errors in their ways….I do so love living in a fantasy world! Firstly no, not everyone can afford top horses. In fact I dare to say 90% of the horse world can’t afford to buy a top horse. I will say though that 90% of the horse world can create a top horse with hard work, education, and skill. I take exception because I have spent time, dedicated myself to her betterment, and increased her skill level, which in turn has increased her value as a horse. This is what has made her into a top horse. My answer to the Horsetopia standard response is : get off your lazy ass educate yourself fully on horse care, maintenance, training, grooming, feeding etc. and then maybe, just maybe, you will produce a mediocre horse. Rather then being jealous or spiteful towards others and the hard work they put into their horses, concern yourselves with your own nags and the work they need.
The second point that I would like to address is... I am not made of money. I have never been made of money. As a responsible horse owner, I make sacrifices on a daily bases to enjoy the privilege of owning and riding my horse. To make the assumption that all people who have nice horses, or make snarky comments on fuglies, have money is moronic and grasping at pathetic straws. You have horses because you have a love for them. You do not have horses because you simply have money. So to own a horse does not automatically mean a person has money. It means that person has made the decision to sacrifice other aspects of their lives to enjoy the aspect of owning and riding their horse.
My basic gripe with horsetopia is the butterflies and sunshine rays out of their asses, way of going about things. Rather then living in fear of offending someone with non biased and straight forward opinions, why not be honest and truthful. Rather then assuming a top horse can only be bought if you have money, find a diamond in the rough and make it a top horse. This of course means you would need to educate yourself on all aspects of horsemanship. Go start educating your selves.

The byb of the day is......

Note: all photo's come from Horsetopia. The user name is mentioned



Our First Contestant for Back Yard Breeder of the day is.....

James3-08 From Oklahoma.


This straight shouldered, post legged, splay legged, bull necked yak is the daddy of all the '09 foals! And would you look at that.... at least he's got spots.
This poor guy screams "GELD ME PLEASE"


This is one of the mares that James is planning on breeding. Don't you just love the straight shoulder, post legs, itsy bitsy skinny neck, tiny head, and short croup this little mare is sporting.
Definitely not breeding quality.
Let me ask you something James, are you trying to make an spotted yak? If not I seriously suggest you change profession.