Accidents happen.....?
This is situation is not the owners fault, but rather the barn owners fault.
Some of the comments are ridiculously stupid. (Naturally)
Most of the responses were telling her to abort.
Picture is from the Horsetopia Forum.
You can find the link to the thread at the bottom.
Color Key:
Red= vet's view on it
Blue= comments on thread
I have made certain points bold.... (the key points lol)
Bitgirl_95 from Horsetopia posted....
"I know horrible but what happened was the lady i have bought all my horses from like boards my horses never had a problem until 3 wks ago (we wanted to make sure she was pregnant) but she let Tila my missouri foxtrotter stallion out to exercise in a pasture and my yearling filly and 3 yearling colts are 2 pastures away so she figured it will be ok but it wasnt my filly was in season she is 1 yrs old and 2 months tall and pretty i will post a pic and unfortunately a good jumper Bunny the filly jumped both pastures and got in with Tila and she didnt know because she was in front of the house mowing and i wasnt their well when her grandchildren finally noticed it was too late he got her So i get this phone call out of nowhere at the time i was paying for my groceries and she says Tila got Bunny i literally screamed WHAT!?! so i drove out there everything was calm on the drive but when i got there i was furious because i had told her not to touch Tila because this is what i was trying to avoid and so today is the 3 wk mark she hasnt gone into season and i called a vet out and the vet said we can give her a shot of leutalyze sp? but he said it wasnt 100% sure gonna abort the baby so he said you should just let her have it shes big she can handle it and i will come every month if you need me to and i will be there birth day so im still thinking about letting her have it but i gotta get help first. i just couldnt believe she didnt watch a stallion and a in season filly im mean common sense but im not gonna blame her i just dont know what to do.
So the question is should i let her have it or not?
What would be the risks?
The vet said i should let her have it but im gonna turn to you guys?"
Also Posted in Response to Arabiancowgirl telling her to abort
"oh arabiancowgirl she isnt tiny she is tall her is a pic awhile back right now she is about 13.5-14 hands isnt that tall
for a yearling"
Whisper Stables Replied With....
"Also remimber, at that young of an age the shot can make her steril permanitly. That is what happon to a friend of mine a while ago. I am pro life in most cases. But of you REALLY want to breed her later in life you may want to concider letting her go threw with the pregnancy and killing the foal when it's born. Either way you are killing a baby, why risk having your mare become steril?"
At the end of the thread.... when Bitgirl_95 didn't update anyone on her decision....
"OK, since there is nothing but the sound of silence one could suppose the OP has elected to allow her filly to have the foal, which is her right to decide to do. My guess is she is a bit apprehensive about the heated discussion that may ensue in response to her decision. Things can get "lively" around here sometimes, as we all know. She asked for advice, was given a ton of it and is now free to do whatever she prefers to do. It might not be what most would do, but it's not our call. OR, she is simply not firmly attached to her computer and spending entirely too much time here, everyday, consumed with the lives and situations of others...in a totally healthy way , of course , and is thus unaware of our concern . Whatever will be...will be , you know? That's what I think."
Firstly, what licensed vet would encourage her to allow the yearling to carry full term, despite the fact that it could very well cause severe problems down the road?
And who the hell would kill a foal after letting it be carried full term? There is a difference between aborting a fetus and killing it after it was birthed.
I was pleased to see most of the Horsetopians advise her to abort, although a few didn't.
The ending comment about the OP not updating them with her decision, leads me to agree that she probably elected to allow the yearling to go full term.
You can find the original thread HERE
posted by Outting The Asshats of Horsetopia @ 3:00 PM
12 Comments:
Of course she let her filly have the foal. Because foals R soooooooooooooooooo kewt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Sorry, my eyes just imploded from rolling them so hard.
I was stunned by all the people saying that she just couldn't abort it because the filly would be emotionally traumatized.
Cause it works like that.
I read that thread the other day, and all I kept thinking was "WTF?" There are so many things wrong with her post. First off, what kind of vet does she have, telling her that her filly should just have the baby? Secondly, why does she have so many horses/young horses/intact horses (3 yearling colts and a stallion??). Thirdly, why is she keeping the (in-heat) filly with the colts? Fourthly, why is she even asking--her filly is obviously way too immature. Fifthly, if she was so worried about her stallion breeding, why does he still have his nuts (and where was he being kept before if he needed to be turned out to exercise? And it's not his fault the filly got bred, since allegedly she went to him...)
HorseDopia makes me sad sometimes (most times).
Goshdarnit, I can barely put up with the fundamentalist anti-abortionists to begin with...but when they start extrapolating to animals, a small part of me dies inside.
I guess she went with the shot anyway, from the looks of things. Frankly, I wouldn't mind if a shot made an animal permanently sterile. It would save people vet bills from anesthesia and spaying operations. And possibly prevent more fuglies.
I can just see the vet at a fugly visit: "I'm going to give your horse a quick 'vitamin' shot here. Otherwise things are just fine!" XD
I'll bet you my life that the fence is totally inadequate for keeping a stallion. If the fence is 4' high and flimsy, that is NOT enough deterrant to prevent one or the other from going over/through it. There is a REASON stallions are turned out in paddocks with high fences.
I can't believe the people who say she should have the filly have the foal. This emotional trauma crap gets to me. Poor filly probably isn't even aware she's pregnant. And the first time around, many mares seem surprised when that foal pops out. She has no idea there's a foal on the way.
And the whole sterile for life bit...AAAARRRGGGHHH! Let's see...possibly sterile but healthy filly, or dead filly and newborn foal to bottle raise. We all know what little hellions bottle-fed foals can become. And what about foal rejection. Something tells me it's more likely to occur in a situation like this.
And that vet. Can you imagine bringing your pregnant 11 year old daughter to the doctor and having him say that she should carry the baby to full term?
"Things can get pretty heated around here...."
Huh? On HT? I wonder how that person copes with the real world.
That is shocking that a vet would reccomend a yearling carry a [most likely slaughter bound] foal. That'll end well.
I find it very hard to believe a vet would reccomend going through with the pregnancy. What responsible horse owner would go through with it?
If my yearling filly got bred, I'd break all posted speed limits to get to the vet for a shot. Although seeing how my filly lives with mares and geldings, much less likely to happen.
I think I would do a happy dance if the filly ended up sterile. She is nothing special and doesn't need to be adding to the gene pool. And it sounds like her vet=preacher down the street.
When people are as dumb as her it makes me wonder how they are still alive.
The filly is 13.5-14 hands. WTF is 13.5? and my TB filly was 15.3 at 8 months. so that doesn't seem too big for me. Nothing, even it is a huge should be having a baby at that age
JustJumpers said...
I think I would do a happy dance if the filly ended up sterile. She is nothing special and doesn't need to be adding to the gene pool. And it sounds like her vet=preacher down the street.
When people are as dumb as her it makes me wonder how they are still alive.
Ditto! "Would you want to risk her being sterile?" How about the risk of her dying while giving birth.
A situation like this shouldn't even be a question of what to do. Oh yeah, and she needs to find a new vet asap!
JustJumpers, part of me would do a happy dance if the POSTER ended up sterile.
She is going to permanetly screw that baby up by allowing her to have that foal. I would rather risk having a sterile mare than a stunted one with other problems down the road that very well might not be able to have anymore foals down the road anyways. I would have had the vet abort that foal right then and there no questions and if he wouldn't do it I would find another vet that had some sort of intelligence to do it.
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